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- Info-Hams Digest Mon, 31 Oct 94 Volume 94 : Issue 1174
-
- Today's Topics:
- AM AIRBAND INFO
- Call Sign ID
- Contacting the MIR. Help!
- Earth Ground (was: ARRL And Gay Hams Settle Complaint)
- exploring the internet
- Icom 730 pre-amp prob
- Looking for Mac Logging Programs
- NoCal OO goes after Packet BULLetins
- Soldering iron - how hot?
- Space Shuttle on HF ?
-
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- ----------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- Date: Sat, 29 Oct 94 22:39:00 +0100
- From: martin.briscoe@almac.co.uk (MARTIN BRISCOE)
- Subject: AM AIRBAND INFO
-
- References: <1994Oct28.160924.1@ttd.teradyne.com>
-
- JR> > A friend of mine who works in search and rescue is looking for an HT
- JR> > can handle AM airband xmit plus FM xmit. It turns out that Search and
- JR> > personnel wear equipment on them and they cant be asked to have even
- JR> > equipment in their suits.
- JR> > Does anyone know of a rig that can handfle AM transmit and FM, in oth
- JR> > offer 118-136MHz AM plus the FM band. He needs AM to talk to the Chop
- JR> > personnel and FM to talk to Police etc.
-
- Here in the UK, SAR choppers talk to Mountain Rescue Teams on FM channels
- in or around the marine VHF band - so marine band sets can be used.
-
-
- ---------------------------------------------------------
- | Martin Briscoe | Internet: martin.briscoe@almac.co.uk |
- | | Packet: GM8AOB@GB7AOB.#76.GBR.EU |
- | FORT WILLIAM | |
- | Inverness-shire | |
- | PH33 6UG | PGP 2.3 Key on request |
- ---------------------------------------------------------
-
-
- ---
- * RM 1.3 00964 * Martin Briscoe - Fort William - Inverness-shire - Scotland
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 30 Oct 1994 00:58:38 -0400
- From: wb2mpk@gti.gti.net (Glen Johnson)
- Subject: Call Sign ID
-
- : When you say "XY8 Double PQ" you are "legally" implying that your callsign
- : is XY8DPQ instead of XY8PPQ.
-
- That's correct. Its probably technically not legal to ID that way. Back
- in the CB craze of the 70's, I knew a guy who was fined $50 (back when
- the FCC actually paid attention to CB radio) for identifying his station
- KKZ-0007 as "King King Zebra Triple Zero Seven" .
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Sun, 30 Oct 1994 23:06:27
- From: n7ryw@teleport.com (William Roth)
- Subject: Contacting the MIR. Help!
-
- In article <1994Oct31.021040.1@ntuvax.ntu.ac.sg> asirene@ntuvax.ntu.ac.sg writes:
- >From: asirene@ntuvax.ntu.ac.sg
- >Subject: Contacting the MIR. Help!
- >Date: 31 Oct 94 02:10:40 +0800
-
-
-
- > Can anyone tell me the minimum requirement to work the MIR.
- >I am using a 7/8 lambda Diamond F-22 vertical mounted on roof. Also
- >using IC-22A on 145.550 MHz with 10watts output. Is this sufficient
- >to work the MIR? The last pass we tried was about 440km nearest.
-
- The antenna is the exact opposite of what you want. The F-22 (and all gain
- verticals) get their gain by concentrating the signal toward the horizon.
- The problem is that MIR is UP, not at the horizon! Don't feel alone, when
- I worked at HRO, this would happen with someone once a day at least.
-
- Try an antenna called a "Crossed Dipole". I used one for years for MIR
- and Sarex. It points up toward the satellites. For a good description, look
- in the Satellite Experimenters Handbook for it.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Sun, 30 Oct 94 21:13:04 PST
- From: Ted_Eugene_Viens@cup.portal.com
- Subject: Earth Ground (was: ARRL And Gay Hams Settle Complaint)
-
- >I don't HAVE to tolerate anything. If I want to tolerate it, I
- >will, if I don't, I won't.
- >
- >You don't want people telling you what you have to do, so don't
- >go telling others what the have to do. In other words don't be
- >a hipocrit (sp?).
- >
- >This is costing me money, so I'll skip the dictionary.
- >=====================================================
- >William A. Coyle
- > No Company
- >WCOYLE@DELPHI.COM
- >No School
- >N30GH
- > No Time
- >
- > "Any man who gives up long term freedom for short
- > term safety deserves neither freedom
- > nor safety." Benjamin Franklin
- >
- >
- >
- >A.R.R.L, Mobile Sixers,TRiARC,N.R.A.
- >===================================================
- >
- Sheesh, what a waste of humanity and bandwidth.
- You are all a bunch of JERKS.
-
- Liberals are dumb enough to think they can successfully
- legislate anybody's inner thoughts. Or, possibly, that
- subtle arguments will assuage the soul of a common man.
-
- Conservatives are dumb enough to think they have some
- right to abuse inferior people of any strange ilk.
-
- Fortunately, (for the time being,) enough common ole
- Joe Blow's see both of these positions as pretty stupid.
-
- Now, Billy, in your own thoughts, you "don't HAVE to tolerate
- anything." I personnally don't care if you spend your
- waking hours in obsessed thoughts of cutting the nuts off
- of any man who has the "gay look." Hey, whatever turns
- your "crank."
-
- However, if you are dumb enough to think that you "don't
- HAVE to tolerate" the legal activities in public environments
- of another citizen simply because his lifestyle rubs you
- the wrong way, I will be among the first in line to laugh
- as you rot in jail for any attempt to deprive him of his
- lawful pursuits.
-
- This isn't very complicated. Either we believe in a truly
- responsible and free society that sets the standards for
- the rest of world to admire OR we are simply espousing our
- own brand of petty fascist state.
-
- Sorry for this interuption... Bye... Ted..
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 29 Oct 1994 03:11:08 GMT
- From: billsohl@earth.planet.net (Bill Sohl Budd Lake)
- Subject: exploring the internet
-
- Howard Goldstein (imotion@iu.NET) wrote:
- : Scott Erlich said:
-
- In reference to a request that Scott make copies of his internet
- articles available by FTP or some other internet distribution
- method he (Scott) said:
- : >First, that would by copyright infringment.
-
- That's only true if you no longer are the copyright holder.
- (i.e. if when you contracted to provide the articles, you agreed
- to surrender the copyright to the publisher).
-
- > Second, I want people to
- : >actually read the article in the magazine or as a reprint. There are
- : >some nice examples and sidebars you would be missing if it were posted here.
-
- Great strides are being made with graphical presentation over
- the Internet. Presumably, as an internet guru (that's a compliment
- not a sarcastic remark) you've probably already seen Mosaic
- information sites which could be a great way to make your
- articles available.
-
- : >Neither I nor anyone else can stop someone from doing this, but I
- : >certainly won't.
-
- Certainly, no one should do that unless they have permission
- from the copyright holder.
-
- : >Believe me. The series is worth reading in the magazine or in reprint form.
- : >The responses I've already received have proven that point.
-
- How about sharing some of those responses that may be of interest
- to us in this newsgroup from the ham radio perspective?
-
- : Too bad someone can't convert the articles to html,, sidebars and all
- : through links, and put it on your nice www server.
-
- Oops, I posted my mosaic comments above before getting to this comment.
-
- Cheers,
-
- --
- Bill Sohl K2UNK (billsohl@planet.net)
- Budd Lake, New Jersey
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 31 Oct 1994 16:48:22 +1100
- From: paulr@pwd.nsw.gov.au (Paul Rodenhuis)
- Subject: Icom 730 pre-amp prob
-
- My old (10yrs plus) IC730-S has a problem with the pre-amp. If I switch
- it in, it acts as a 99dB attenuator. As the act of switching it in
- has an effect, I assume the switch is OK (but then again, maybe only
- half of it is).
-
- The other conclusion is an IC or transistor in the preamp. Anyone
- had this experience, and any suggestions.
-
- paulr
- --
- | Paul Rodenhuis | Database Administration | Information Services Branch |
- | NSW Public Works Dept | paulr@pwd.nsw.gov.au | +61-2-372-7037 FAX 7022 |
- | VK2AHB@VK2XY Home +61-2-449-9212 Fax +61-2-449-7827 | Mobile 018-647-364 |
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 31 Oct 1994 06:37:35 GMT
- From: jgervais@weber.ucsd.edu (Joe Gervais )
- Subject: Looking for Mac Logging Programs
-
- In article <mxb11-261094072026@esys10264.esys.cwru.edu>, mxb11@po.cwru.edu
- (Marc Buchner) wrote:
- >
- > Hi,
- > I'm been looking for Mac logging programs and to date have only found
- > MacContest in my internet wanderings. Unfortunately, the program crashes on
-
- I've been writing a Mac logging program for personal use,
- hadn't realized there may be a total lack of them. If
- they really are that scarce, I'd consider cleaning mine
- up and releasing it to the Net ($5 shareware or something).
-
- What would everyone want to see as far as features? At the
- moment I plan to add sort/report features (always thought
- it would be nice to be able to print all QSO's with VE's
- between a certain date...).
-
- This is a very serious request. Let me know what's on your
- wish list. The Holidays are fast approaching, after all.
- I write code for a living, so you could expect more than
- a quick hack job. More like a long hack job. :)
-
- 73 de KD6PRD,
-
- -Joe
-
- "QRP means never having to tell the neighbors you're sorry."
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 28 Oct 1994 17:00:42 GMT
- From: hanko@wv.mentorg.com (Hank Oredson)
- Subject: NoCal OO goes after Packet BULLetins
-
- In article <1994Oct24.205835.11821@news.csuohio.edu>, sww@csuohio.edu (Steve Wolf) writes:
- |>
- |> The point is being missed. Are packet bulletins addressed to either
- |> "all" or a like form of "all" (MUSIC, SEWING, CRAFTS, NAFTA, etc.)
- |> indeed informational bulletins?
- |>
- |> Is there a difference between:
- |>
- |> 1. My tuning in a W1AW transmission and listening to an ARRL bulletin.
- |> 2. My tuning in a packet BBS station and reading an ARRL bulletin.
-
- 1. You listen, you are NOT in QSO with anyone.
- 2. You CONNECT, and are in QSO with the BBS.
-
- 1. W1AW has NO CLUE that you are listening.
- 2. You BBS KNOWS you are connected, and that the two calls are in QSO.
-
- This really cannot be so difficult to understand?
-
- ... Hank
-
-
- --
-
- Hank Oredson @ Mentor Graphics Library Operations
- Internet : hank_oredson@mentorg.com "Parts 'R Us!"
- Amateur Radio: W0RLI@W0RLI.OR.USA.NOAM
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Sun, 30 Oct 1994 21:19
- From: CSMSCST@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU (Chris Thomas)
- Subject: Soldering iron - how hot?
-
- With the availability of temperature controlled and lately, digitally
- selectable tip temperature soldering irons, what temperature should
- I use for common operations like working on printed circuit boards
- or soldering RG-8 coax connectors?
-
- -- 73 de Chris Thomas, AA6SQ (ex-WA6HTJ) (CSMSCST@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU)
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 30 Oct 1994 15:50:52 GMT
- From: demetre@phaethon.intranet.gr (Demetre Koumanakos)
- Subject: Space Shuttle on HF ?
-
- CQ Netters...
-
- While SWListenning, I found myself on 6.730 Mhz USB, and I heard
- an American accented man identify himself as "Two Nine Thousand",
- there was noise on his background as if he was in an aircraft, and
- his mike had a blip roger similar to those used by aviation radios !
- Another American accented man replied "we have a clear contact,
- there is QRM on 127, stay here untill we are on the go"
- For the next couple of minutes the first voice tested his mike
- "This is Two Nine Thousand 1,2,3,3,2,1" and the other would reply "clear"
- The two stations made a QSY to 6.731 Mhz USB, and continued to test
- their contact, at some point I lost them both, I searched around a
- bit and found them again on 6.738 Mhz USB, when I heard the following,
- "Andrews this is 2.9000", lot's of QRM followed, "Skyking this
- is a confirmation, do not reply", more QRM, "Conditions are Blue",
- even more QRM, "Andrews on 6.738", and from then on lot's of QRM
- with sporadic messages using the phonetic alphabet and numbers.
- The signal of "Two Nine Thousand" was 9+20/5 and of "Andrews" 7/5
- Does anyone know what the above was ?? A friend told me it could
- have been the Space Shuttle, it made sence for a bit due to the
- name "Andrews" that was used, also the blip roger did remind me
- of the one I have heard from famous to all of us Apollo moon landing
- film footage, and the fact that they should be in space at about
- now, but then again what would the space shuttle be doing in HF ??
-
- Does anyone know was it that I heard ???????
-
-
-
- Please reply via e-mail
-
- 73's
-
- demetre@intranet.gr
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Wed, 26 Oct 1994 12:43:41 -0400
- From: roh033.mah48d@rohmhaas.com (John E. Taylor III)
-
- References<389n39$5at@ccnet.ccnet.com> <n7fzyCy7E3D.HG4@netcom.com>, <38ianj$l4a@nntpd.lkg.dec.com>
- Subject: Re: NoCal OO goes after Packet BULLetins
-
- In article <38ianj$l4a@nntpd.lkg.dec.com>, little@iamu.chi.dec.com (Todd
- Little) wrote:
-
-
- > |>They also said they did not know and referred him to the FCC and asked him
- > |>to "let them know what the FCC says." (I don't know who I was at HQ that
- > |>said this, but it sure does not sound like a good idea to me). So,
- > |>Fred started corresponding with the FCC. The results he got were right
- > |>out of Part 97.
- >
- > Why was this even brought up to the FCC? We're supposed to be self-policing
- > and have been generally given a fair amount of latitude by the FCC. Asking
- > them is like holding up a red flag and saying, "Don't *you* think this is
- > prohibited?" or "Isn't this what you meant by broadcasting?".
-
- What better way to get an official ruling that somebody is not permitted to
- do what _you_ don't want them to do.
-
- --
- John Taylor (W3ZID) | "The opinions expressed are those of the
- roh033.mah48d@rohmhaas.com | writer and not of Rohm and Haas Company."
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 30 Oct 1994 00:54:42 -0400
- From: wb2mpk@gti.gti.net (Glen Johnson)
-
- References<380lri$3g7@eugene.convex.com> <380rrs$gfh@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>, <J00UjAV.wcoyle@delphi.com>
- Subject: Re: Earth Ground (was: ARRL And Gay Hams Settle Complaint)
-
- : N30GH
-
- What kind of callsign is this? Do you have a ham license?
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Wed, 26 Oct 1994 13:03:02 -0400
- From: roh033.mah48d@rohmhaas.com (John E. Taylor III)
-
- References<sdarragh-241094105246@sdarragh-mac.cisco.com> <38gsj8$2np@masala.cc.uh.edu>, <1994Oct25.130926.826@ke4zv.atl.ga.us>
- Subject: Re: Guess What I did Saturday!
-
- In article <1994Oct25.130926.826@ke4zv.atl.ga.us>, gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us
- (Gary Coffman) wrote:
-
- > In article <38gsj8$2np@masala.cc.uh.edu> djenkins@jetson.uh.edu (David Jenkins) writes:
- > >In <sdarragh-241094105246@sdarragh-mac.cisco.com>, sdarragh@cisco.com (Scott Darragh) writes:
- > >> .... . -.-- .. .--. .- ... ... . -.. -- -.-- -.-. --- -.. . - ....
- > >>... ... .-- . . -.- . -. -.. .-.-.- .. . ...- . -. .... .- -.. -- -.--
- > >>...-. .. .-. ... - -.-. --- -. - .- -.-. - .-.-.- -.-- --- ..- - .... ---
- > >>...-
- > >>--. - .. .-- .- -. - . -.. .- .-. .- -.. .. --- -... . ..-. --- .-. .
- >
- > Scott said, "HEYIPASSEDMYCODETHISWEEKEND.IEVENHADMYFIRSTCONTACT.YOU
- > THOUGHTIWANTEDARADIOBEFOREHOWYOUTHINKIFEELNOW.IGOTMYFIRSTCONTACTFROM
- > CALLINGCQ.IGUESSIWASNTBASHFUL.IAMTOTALLYLOOKINGFORWARDTOGETTINGACWR
- > ADIO.<ditdit>SCOTT
- >
- > Some of us can read it better than we can hear it. That's what old
- > Sammy Morse had in mind when he built his telegraph. I would get out
- > a port rule and rip off a reply, but ASCII is so much nicer, so...
-
- Gary, It's becoming clear why you're not fond of Morse code...you got off
- to a bad start and learned it the wrong way (i.e., visually). But for
- that, you'd probably be enjoying 40-wpm cw conversations. ;-)
-
- --
- John Taylor (W3ZID) | "The opinions expressed are those of the
- roh033.mah48d@rohmhaas.com | writer and not of Rohm and Haas Company."
-
- ------------------------------
-
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